tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414404348331965096.post3496091394718411082..comments2023-03-17T01:11:37.569-07:00Comments on How Bad is The Record: Banned By TskaumisGary Ehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10640964040603349900noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414404348331965096.post-78394450078200562082010-09-20T20:07:08.761-07:002010-09-20T20:07:08.761-07:00A few corrections. Since its incorporation, Coppe...A few corrections. Since its incorporation, Copper Beach Estates Ltd. went through a series of principle owners. Tim Drummind did not arrive on the scene until he negotiated a corporate raid which brought two prospective real estate buyers to the table which financed the take over of C.B.E. Ltd. The proceeds of selling the Furry Creek properties and a considerable down payment by 400091 British Columbia Ltd. for a prospective golf club/real estate development at the townsite of Britannia Beach put Tim Drummond at the helm of C.B. E. Ltd. in the early nineties. Terms of the agreement for sale with 400091 B.C. Ltd. capped remedial participation and environmental costs associated with the purchase of the townsite lands.<br />Not only did the expected remedial obligations turn out to exceed the agreed cap, a geo-physical report by Frank Baumann identified a major hazard in what is known as the Jane Basin fault. This moved 300091 British Columbia Ltd. to ask for their ca. $6 millions down payment returned but all the proceeds from both pre sales had been used to buy out the previous share positions in C.B. E. Ltd.<br />400091 became a reluctant registered mortgage holder and did not proceed to initiate foreclosure until Mr. Drummond clear cut a substantial inventory of trees without the contractual obligation of seeking agreement with the mortgage holder, nor sharing revenue from the proceeds.<br />400091 British Columbia Ltd. moved to foreclose but was hesitant to take possession as this would make them liable for remedial costs which they did not hold as a purely financial interest on title as determined by the new environmental legislation.<br />Mr. Meech.s assertion that Tim Drummind was involved since the closure in 1975 is wrong. The mine closed in 1974 and title was transferred to Copper Beach Estates Ltd. in 1978.<br />A curious historical note ever more relevant is that Anaconda abandoned Britannia after depleting the high grade extraction under the scepter of a stronger NDP labour force for greener pastures assured by Henry Kissinger and the gang in restoring old concessions in Chile with the overthrow of the Allende government and the installation of the fascist dictator Pinochet. We all see where that Chicago model of free enterprise has taken the world since. Greenspan apologized for "getting it wrong"!L.S.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09500032658765365775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414404348331965096.post-64810651608612121652010-09-20T09:22:01.501-07:002010-09-20T09:22:01.501-07:00Interesting to stumble upon this blog. John Laxto...Interesting to stumble upon this blog. John Laxton spoke of the complex "machinations" surrounding the control and ownership of Anaconda's properties at Britannia Beach. That is an understatement.<br />From the very first considerations of closing the mine reflected in a Lehman Brothers report, through to the questionable foreclosure and Order of Absolute Possession which gave Rob Macdonald and associated control of development at Britannia, a tangled web of deceit and intrigue was woven. As a resident, who continued negotiations initiated by Laurier LaPierre with Andres Thomas, then president of C.B.E. Ltd., to purchase the townsite as a co-op, I came to know all of the players and was intimately familiar with the "complex machinations" surrounding the saga of the Britannia properties.<br />What I can definitively state is that there were improprieties which led to the transfer of title to 400091 British Columbia during the foreclosure proceedings which negated and cancelled all registered interests in the properties behind the first mortgage. What needs to be explored is the sweetheart deal between the developer and the premier! Britannia was a sinkhole of tax dollars which can be traced back to Anaconda's sale of the properties to C.B.E. Ltd. (a consortium of suppliers to the mining company) through Dome Petroleum which was then fortuitously bought out by Makin Pulp and Paper Ltd. who received huge federal R&D grants to create hundreds of long term quality jobs in the burgeoning coated paper production field.<br />When fully exposed and understood, the record of Britannia, post closure of the mining activities in the early '70's , is a tribute to lost opportunity and predatory personal enrichment. Some names shine through. Despite personal differences, John Meech was one of the more honourable contributors to the positive developments at Britannia. A real tragedy is the unfair treatment N.T.B.C. received and the lost opportunity to see innovative Canadian technology become an international force in bio-remediation of ARD.<br />Interested to hear more from other perspectives on the corporate scripting of my home, Britannia Beach.L.S.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09500032658765365775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414404348331965096.post-5231233681582687402010-08-10T15:42:00.880-07:002010-08-10T15:42:00.880-07:00Telling.
Its funny how this man can spew venom bu...Telling.<br /><br />Its funny how this man can spew venom but finds the truth hurts.<br /><br />He's after my ass now too. I'm really, really worried. ;)<br /><br />I caught him at a few things and now because he is afraid the whole truth will come out, he's going to try and sue me.<br /><br />Funny how he threatens that so often.<br />Whats he hiding?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414404348331965096.post-6079136241592029182010-03-30T09:03:21.319-07:002010-03-30T09:03:21.319-07:00Well Mr. Meech we will continue with "my educ...Well Mr. Meech we will continue with "my education" later today as it is going to be a busy one. I must thank you for putting dates to things or as I see it rearranging (spinning) the subject. And you have done something that Alex didn't. You see he left the impression that he was always the owner until he was rescued. Oh, and your post smells very much like it was dictated by his lordship. Later.Gary Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10640964040603349900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414404348331965096.post-40542018098558481332010-03-29T11:54:46.522-07:002010-03-29T11:54:46.522-07:00Most of the details that you provided about Copper...Most of the details that you provided about Copper Beach Estates relate to a period in time before Mr Tsakamis became involved at the site. CBEL was owned from the point of mine closure in 1975 until around 1999 by a gentleman named Tim Drummond, who was convicted in 2000 of embezzling about $40,000 from the West Vancouver Boy Scouts Christmas Fund. CBEL did go into receivership about 1992 or 1993 and the site was then operated by Price Waterhouse (as I recall) until it was sold twice (believe it or not) to Ian Hagemoen and Alex Tsakumis - neither of whom knew that the other was involved. Eventually they resolved their ownership issues and became partners. Ian moved into the town and began doing the so-badly needed maintenance work at the time. Alex Tsakumis helped fund UBC to initiate the Millennium Plug Project in which a concrete plug was installed in the 2200 level adit and the effluent was turned off on Dec 31st, 2001. Subsequently, with Mr Tsakumis, UBC prepared a detailed proposal in the spring of 2002 to build a water treatment plant designed by AMEC Engineering - the plant is virtually identical to that which the government eventually installed in the fall of 2005 as a P3 joint venture with EPCOR.<br /><br />Alex Tsakumis helped fund the first significant reduction in toxic ARD (acid rock drainage) that flowed into Howe Sound surface waters since the mine closed in 1974. Both he and Ian Hagemoen should be remembered for making positive contributions at the site. The idea to truck toxic waste to be disposed at the top of the mountain was Drummond's idea, not that of Tsakumis, and was never a componenent of the UBC-CBEL plan.<br /><br />If you really want to dig into this issue you should look into how a $45 million dollar government "contingency fund" was turned into a remediation fund without any notice or discussion - it created a significant "cash cow" for all the engineering firms as they "studied" and "studied" the site over and over again and again refusing to install any new systems without 100% knowledge. The water treatment plant could have been put into place at least 4 years before it started up (same basic design) and a lot less money would have been spent to solve what is really a relatively straight-forward problem. They call this "due-diligence"!<br /><br />The real innovation at the site could have been (and still can be) the recovery of heat from the ARD flowing out of the 4100 level to the water treatment plant. Using a district heating heat pump concept there is enough heat content in the ARD effluent to supply all the space heating needs of Britannia Beach and the associated commercial businesses. But governments spend money and tax the population - they do not run businesses - so none of these types of innovations are possible until a wholistic approach is taken to create truly sustainable communities.<br /><br />John Meech, P.Eng., Ph.D.<br />Director of Research - UBC-CERM3<br />The Centre for Environmental Research in Minerals, Metals, and MaterialsJohn Meechhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03154408360424483615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414404348331965096.post-7155297536004277482010-03-29T08:58:36.885-07:002010-03-29T08:58:36.885-07:00Being banned from "Rubbish without a Pause&qu...Being banned from "Rubbish without a Pause" is an HONOUR!kootcoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11344208424209840730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414404348331965096.post-80247009083341169672010-03-29T07:36:17.349-07:002010-03-29T07:36:17.349-07:00Add me to the list. It seems the Big A doesn't...Add me to the list. It seems the Big A doesn't like to many questions about anything he<br />disagrees with, or doesn't want to answer, or doesn't understand. Been banned is no big<br />deal.<br /><br /><br /><br />Kam LeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414404348331965096.post-15487882956058040402010-03-29T06:52:59.758-07:002010-03-29T06:52:59.758-07:00Hi grant
We need to be clear here. The pug was co...Hi grant<br /> We need to be clear here. The pug was concrete. The toxic soil was to be used in the Jane Basin beside Britannia Creek which runs right down the mountain beside the townsite. <br />What I found VERY interesting about that proposal is that anyone in their right mind would know about leaching and Acid Rock Drainage (ARD)<br />The same thing is going to happen at Teztan Biny (Fish Lake)Gary Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10640964040603349900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414404348331965096.post-43280537949234337872010-03-28T23:18:21.364-07:002010-03-28T23:18:21.364-07:00Great work Sherlock Holmes.
"It`s a tangled...Great work Sherlock Holmes.<br /><br /> "It`s a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive"<br /><br /><br />Gee whiz, toxic soil to plug a mine,that doesn`t sound very pleasent.<br /><br />I owe you one!<br /><br />CheersGrant Ghttp://powellriverpersuader.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.com